Avery: wow ... them smart questions yo. lol
Steven: silly boy
Avery: i struggled a long time to like what i saw from me on page .... for me it was my words but they just wasnt doin anything i felt was interestin .... readin mama sonia (sanchez) n sis. shange's work i was like .. ok thats how i want language to move n then readin patricia smith's work i was like that's how that joint should feel. so i guess the answer to your question would be i write the way i write to keep a language or a "tongue" n/or aesthetic bouncin on page .... as a performer & author i look at the page as a stage & therefore the language has to challenge & excite .. so i clip some g(s) .. lower case the join & italicized a quotes to move n groove it yo
Avery: as fara as my mode of operatin .... i do what moves me ... i perform & right the way in which i respond ... i like sweat n hawk heavy preachin; sis. maywaeather buckin when the tony start that holyghost music on the organ; all that cussin millie jackson, lawanda page n rudy mae moore do to punctuate shit; james brown splittin; nna simone see-line woman blastin 3:38am; tay-tay actin a fool at the blk family reunion; all these things make me laugh or clap pr cry or boogie or turn to my neighbor n say "ooooo weeeeeee! they showin out" ...n thats all i'm doin .. showin out .... thats the method the process or art or craft comes in its all from a real place so what i do is more ritual than "shuckin"
Steven: very nice. what are you working on now?
Avery: what i aint workin on yo ...lol. ahhhh .. lets see i'm workin on curriculum now .. i'm writing a prose-etic hip hop theatrics curriculum
Steven: for what school? independently?
Avery: & then i'm workin on some music with my boy dj itch 13. both bofe them joints just on some workin stuff. the curriculum is for the Chicago Public Schools board
Steven: what grade?
Avery: grades 6th - 9th
Avery: thank you.***
and now, a poem from TBLWTB by avery...
or notes on the sexploitation of coco-dorms
avery r. young
massa coppin mansions off dem liquor store niggaz
fuckin raw-thug-dizzle on cue spittin black holes ready
dem niggaz nigga each other mo dan de ku klux or dis poem
ever will & dey keep cummin dem niggaz
keep cummin thugroomin bluntbrunchin ploppin
dey brown faces drippy with dana samples
& dey keep cummin ouchin creamin soulin sheets
(you’d think niggaz had cycles some of dem
even utter get me pregnant nigga) all while massa countin
washingtons lincolns franklins countin uncle sam countin
(one lil / two lil / three lil nigga-rins) massa countin
dey swollen dicks openin dey swollen man-ginas
turnin ery brown red (yo chekkit) cant no closet/ship fit
all dem niggaz & dey keep cummin & white boys black
boys hot rican boys download upload all side neck-n-backload
spill babies all over our nasty azz selves cause dese niggaz red
boned-ed packin big bangee bananas & dey keep cummin
so much its like dats all god made em to do dey never run outta dick
or hammers to knock each other out with & dey keep cummin
pied piper L7’s to gyms so dey too can achieve a fresh outta county
look & dey keep cummin bare chest two pairs of boxers
(cause shirts causes niggaz to itch & niggaz refuse to pull dey pants
up) & dey keep cummin & will fuck a sista so granny wont
speculate 52 minutes of junebugs azz on sale fo 59.95
& dey keep cummin peddlin AIDS & all her opportunist kin
keep holy rollers screamin i told yall & dey keep cummin
cause niggaz gotta eat (& how else niggaz gonna eat
unless we show our azzes) & dey keep cummin wont stop cummin
cause we niggaz aint right by each other but love entertainment
we niggaz wont stop playin games to seal relationships
& open communication with one another niggaz wont chill
with de gettin off & get on some lets live fo real & make life
be ery flavaful fantasy we beat to niggaz/nigg-ahs/nig-gods
are we stevie fukkin wonderin how many mo millions massa
gon keep reepin from him poster freaks befo we bust
ourselves endangered (right now on line) you can pay-per-view
some hungry nigga cummin inside another hungry nigga fo roof weed
& all de free wet azz him eyes can gander him aint gonna kiss
dude & him aint gotta commit dude name to memory
all him gotta do is be mandigo gun & shoot (bless him wretched soul)
him make enough change to cop timbs & fendi shades
but dis nigga cant shit piss shower belch unless massa can see it
& dis nigga still fool enough to believe him cum out on top
cause him aint de one gettin juiced in de booty
now, back to the interview...
Steven: what do you do as clark kent?: meaning 9-5er.
Avery: yeah i'm tryin to upgrade to $50 drawz & not be worried bout gettin dookie stains in them. lmao. did it say that out loud?!!! that is what i do ... keep my drawz clean
naw .. for real ... 9-5 i am a teachin artist / teachin creative writing & performanceSteven: art @ CPS or somewhere else, or independently
Avery: through Project A.I.M. inside CCAP @ Columbia College - Chicago & through Young Chicago Authors
Steven: Very nice. I ask this next question frequently because I think it matters. Why do you write and what do you hope to achieve by writing and sharing your work?
Avery: YCA is the organization that does GIrlSpeak & the swaggerzine joint i was workin on all summer ....
why do i write?
i write because i've always done it. its like laughing to me. i can't remember when i didnt laugh
i cant remember when i didn't write
i've become such a better human or have had such a better human experience because i write
i've been outside this country ... i've met & shared many special moments with folk because i write
its easy to do
Steven: nice. nice.
Avery: its the only thing to do outside of breathin n bein b.l.a.c.k. ... lol
what do i hope to achieve by writing .... more good times with good people ... some books ... n a body of work that speak fo me long after i aint here to do shit my damn self ....i mean do it myself. my bad. that damn millie jackson!
who do i hope to achieve from sharin my work ... paid .. lmao
Steven: last q. tell me what you think of To Be Left with the Body
Avery: well yes .. paid. but more importantly a story is told the way i told it & it was communicated with a person that said .. that fool know he know what he know ...
what doi i think about To Be Left With The Body ...
i think that book is like bad azz cimena saturday ...leem tell it
n i mean it in the good way.
its like watchin ... sweetback's baaad assssss song, the watermelon man & space is the place all in none sittini mean one sittin
its this very frank . honest / aberant / yet prgressive collection of language
nothin bout the book is dead
the voices all tangible / textured
grits & cheese
neck bones & collard greens
Steven: we talk about death and life but everything is alive
Avery: but all on a blue rectangle plate with parsley .. lmao. right!
erything in the book is alive n should be
Steven: i agree
Avery: cause we talkin bout an issue that doesnt see the 6 ft of dirt
Avery: aint gonna see 6 ft of dirt anytime soon
Steven: the magic is here, it's just waiting to be acknowledged.
Avery: its some thick shit yo. 7 the book T
Steven: wait till you see the new stuff.
Avery: or To Be Left With The Body is soe real life / eryday i'm livin with this language / with this cirmcumstance / with this dick in hand / with this hole in my heart / with this missin my mamma
my big mama
the book is powerful yo
i know when i write about the subject i try to not to speak of the death of it
i try to speak to the livin of it
the "now what" the "and" of it
Steven: uhmm hmmm
Avery: n i believe the work Pamela . you & the other folk in this joint recognises that
she donty look like she no more
come on dude
i be ready to room around the room sometimes when i read the book ...
Avery: you know i like To Be Left With the Body like i like mama sonia's Wounded in the House of a Friend
and for the same reasons
Steven: elaborate. tell me why you like TBLWTB and Wounded.
Avery: they raw as my students will say ....
tblwtb .... pushin language & syntax ... its the new speak of an epidemic ... the work is alive ... you hear them accents / the pauses / the sneezes / the pot liquor ....like Wounded i feel myself descending into the pages of this book 7 i am left with an urgency to activate the advocacy ....
like mama sonia folk up in that book are really doin some work
Steven: Pamela and I are working on her next collection KONG. go here: http://www.new.facebook.com/friends/#/note.php?note_id=25849594036
Avery: that looks sick as hell yo
Steven: wait till you read it
Avery: i mean thats what i'm talkin bout
i'm so happy we write yo
as in we i mean black folk
straight / white / crooked polka dot folk
i'm so happy folk write
Steven: me too
Avery: cause even when i dig it or not. its documentation that somebody is present
Avery: i mean at the end of the day sharin yo writin is a way to let folk outside lil mama'em know you been here
you was here
you gon be here
you feel me
boy i'm bout to run up in this joint
but thats what i feel yo
Avery: i love staceyann chin writes
Steven: yeah, she's scary.
Avery: i love jb (baldwin & brown) wrote. you feel me?
o, cc carter told me to tell you you cant have me
Steven: tell i already got you and that i am coming for her. in fact give her my email, if you don't mind.
Avery: i will she the new executive director at YCA. she started last week
Steven: nice. love it.
Avery: i was like i know who can knock this joint outta the water
n although she was makin moves at Center on Halsted .. she can make real moves here
Steven: nice. lovely.
Avery: i'm actually thinkin bout incorporating To Be Left With The Body in my spring semester master class @ YCA. it spose to be a lyric class inspired by the book of stevie wonder innervisions